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  1. this is the volume of ISOLT that michael bay will turn into a big budget summer blockbuster, mark my words. there are action verbs!! verbs, i tells ya! and picture this on the big screen: we open with our hero, crouching behind some flower bushes, unmoving - waiting, just waiting for a bee to come around and assist in the pollination of the flowers.(pshow, whoosh - many michael-bayish essplosions) and although not strictly supported by textual evidence, i expect his little sticky hand was at the [...]

  2. When they are happy, calm, satisfied with their surroundings, we marvel at their precious gifts; it is the truth, literally, that speaks through their lips. A touch of headache, the slightest prick to their self-esteem, is enough to alter everything. The luminous intelligence, become brusque, convulsive and shrunken, no longer reflects anything but an irritable, suspicious, teasing self, doing everything possible to displease.It was indeed the corrupting effect, as it was also the charm, of this [...]

  3. به ياد می آورم که يک ساعتی پيش از زمانی که مادربزرگم با پيرهن خانه خم شد تا چکمه هايم در درآورد،در گرمای کشنده در خيابانها پرسه ميزدم و،در برابر مغازه قنادی، احساسم اين بود که با همه نيازم به بوسيدن مادربزرگم،به هيچ رو طاقت تحمل يک ساعتی را که هنوز بايد بی او بگزرانم ندارم.و اک [...]

  4. As our vision is a deceiving sense, a human body, even when it is loved as Albertine’s was, seems to us to be a few yards’ at a few inches’ distance from us. And similarly with the soul that inhabits it.A good case can be made that these books should be read one after the other, so as not to lose the narrative thread or to forget the many characters involved. But I am finding that an equally good case can be made for spacing them out. Memory is crucial to this novel; the remembrance of thi [...]

  5. As Sodom and Gomorrah began, our Narrator was struggling to understand the nature of homosexuals while I was alternating between reading his early-twentieth-century musings and poring over sweetly triumphant images of same-sex couples rushing to "legitimize" their long-running relationships with celebratory midnight marriages. As the strange continent of "inverts" draws horticultural allusions and comparisons to covert societies in Proust's time, the LGBTQ community is finally being recognized i [...]

  6. Fluid becomes solid and then fluid again. Changing states, crossovers, transformations. Words produce pictures that turn back into words, black marks on a white page; dots, accents, commas, shapes of letters, enter through the cornea, the retina, the optic nerve, are processed into into what? Images, characters, narrative, scenes, landscapes, weather, tableaux, dialogue, spectacle, sensation. Reactions. The cities of the plain:Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboim, Bela. But Proust takes his title from [...]

  7. Recommended for: Proust completionists. "The conversation of a woman one loves is like the soil that covers a subterranean and dangerous water; one feels at every moment beneath the words the presence, the penetrating chill of an invisible pool; one perceives here and there its treacherous percolation, but the water itself remains hidden." As the title indicates, the fourth book of the ISoLT series deals with the nature of Desire, of the forbidden kind.The voyeuristic window that earlier tentati [...]

  8. This translator (Moncrieff) was too circumspect to call this volume Sodom and Gomorrah, the original title; nevertheless, Proust's theories on "Sodom and Gomorrah" come through loud and clear. Reading Proust's introduction, I was immediately struck by the timeliness and timelessness of its theme: to a certain extent, he could be writing of today. The beginning of the introduction is also very funny; our narrator continues his snooping ways even while he's on tenterhooks over his own obsessive lo [...]

  9. I finished Sodom and Gomorrah over a week ago, and since then I've been mulling over whether to write a proper "review" of it or not. It was the most amorphous of any of the volumes yet, and thus it is slightly more difficult to speak about, or really wrap my thoughts around. Also, at this point, considering any of the volumes of A la recherche to be distinct entities starts to become a bit silly. Certainly, Swann's Way, up through the "novel within the novel" Swann in Love (volume one), could b [...]

  10. “But sometimes the future is latent in us without our knowing it, and our supposedly lying words foreshadow an imminent reality.” ― Marcel Proust, Sodom and GomorrahReviewing 'Sodom and Gomorrah' puts me in an awkward spot. What are the risks of looking back obliquely on Proust's fourth volume of 'In Search of Lost Time' (ISOLT)? Will any indirect reference to Proust's army of inverts turn me into a pillar of salt? Will I disquiet my friends and my family with funky quotes from Proust's sa [...]

  11. (Mild, general spoilers)Ah, Proust, damn you. Damn you, damn you. You tricked me. You took me along for a pleasant ride, one filled with glorious introspection, a “slice” of life so elongated and plotless (at least as much as in real life), that I expected to be carried gently through to the end with a slow rippling buzz, nostalgic yet never heart-wrent. But then you went ahead and wrote the final 17 charged pages of Sodom and Gomorrah , sentencing me to 1200 final pages of sorrow and anguis [...]

  12. Let's say three stars for interminable party scenes and seven stars for solo Marcel going on about grandma and dreams and seeing an airplane for the first time (maybe my favorite page/paragraph so far -- the end of 581 and most of 582 -- typed up for safekeeping below). Oh place names reduced to their historical tribal derivation and places reduced to fancy homes where one is always welcome. That's sort of like the opposite of the madeline-induced association -- instead of something small myster [...]

  13. (Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Bal du moulin de la Galette)"As pessoas não param de mudar de posição relativamente a nós. Na marcha insensível mas eterna do mundo consideramo-las imóveis, num instante de visão, demasiado curto para que se apreenda o movimento que as arrasta. Mas basta que escolhamos na nossa memória duas imagens delas em movimentos diferentes, porém bastante próximos, para que não se tenham alterado em si mesmos, ao menos de maneira sensível, e a diferença entre as duas im [...]

  14. As the title implies, Sodom and Gomorra is the descent into hell - or more aptly, the cruel and unseemly underside of the society described by Le Coté de Guermantes. We have the craven Charlus and Jupien (mirroring the lesbian scene that the narrator sees in the first book). The narrator has his first taste of death and mourning as his grandmother which cuts him to the bone. It is an exciting and brutal book full of action and description in equal parts and the growing obsession of the narrator [...]

  15. Modern romanın en önemli başyapıtlarından gösterilen 'Kayıp Zamanın İzinde' eserinin bence en güzel durağı 'Sodom ve Gomorra'dır. Yapmış olduğum ikinci okumamda, ilk okumam esnasında gözden kaçırmış olduğum şeyleri büyük bir şaşkınlıkla en baştan ve daha kapsamlı bir şekilde özümseme fırsatı buluyorum. Benim için tüm zamanların en iyi yazarı Marcel Proust'tur. Elbette çok göreceli ve öznel sebeplerim var bunun için ama genel geçer görüşte de Prous [...]

  16. I just finished Volume 4 and have jumped right into Volume 5 with sheer excitement. I haven't written any other Proust reviews, but this Volume was easily the best for me so far so I thought I should share a few words.Deep into ISOLT, the whole Time/Memory things is only now really starting to click for me. I think emphasizing Time/Memory over Recognition/Awareness is a little deceptive and maybe makes grappling with Proust's themes a more abstract and esoteric process than it ought to be. A lar [...]

  17. Some have accused Proust of being "long-winded." However, he suffered acutely from shortness of breath but not shortness of breadth. Proust preferred to work on a large canvas. Having read the first four volumes of "In Search of Lost Time," I am even more convinced that Proust is a literary talent of the highest order. He is a writer of immense sensibility in the true sense of the word. His perception and memory and intelligence permeate his writing. Like Balzac, whom he admired, Proust focused [...]

  18. I have to say, M. Proust really pulled this book out for me. I was not enjoying much of the middle of the book, but the last third was excellent and revived my spirits for continuing on with the saga. Once again it was some of the Salons that tended to decrease my connection although the descriptions of the Balbec area and our narrator's return to the coast caught me up again.In a section that seemed to sum up much of the meaning of this book, Proust writes:Other women, it was true, had been int [...]

  19. bbc/programmes/b0076qndDescription: Desperate to avoid the tortures of love, Marcel tries to make himself unavailable to Albertine. Meanwhile, the Baron de Charlus suffers heartbreak. Stars James Wilby.Revisiting, via BBC R4x, all the books in remembrance, our world has altered too.

  20. P. 338- "Porque o instinto de imitação e a ausência de coragem governam tanto as sociedades como as multidões. E toda a gente se ri de uma pessoa de quem vê os outros fazerem troça, mas não deixará de a venerar dez anos mais tarde num meio onde é admirada. É dessa mesma forma que o povo expulsa ou aclama os reis."

  21. Il romanzo inizia con una scena di sesso tra due uomini, dopo un preludio metaforico tra un calabrone e un'orchidea. Alla faccia della Cattleya, con cui nel primo romanzo Proust alludeva al sesso.Il tema di questo quarto capitolo dell'opera Alla ricerca del tempo perduto è proprio l'omosessualità, ma attenzione, Proust si concentra sulle falsità legate alla sessualità degli individui, a quanti sfruttino il proprio corpo per ottenere del potere e a quanti fingano una eterosessualità inesiste [...]

  22. I'm sorry, I'm putting this whole series back on the 'to-read' list for now.It's not that they're bad. It's the precise opposite. I have been so distracted with work and other books that I've fallen behind schedule and now I've forgotten the events and even some of the characters.I enjoyed the three books I did finish immensely. I did not place as much emphasis on the character interactions, as a novel of this scale is so vast that I did not focus on the totality of it. Instead I enjoyed our nar [...]

  23. I don't need to detail the plot it meanders on as beautifully written as ever with the Guermantes and Verdurins being wonderfully silly as ever. The narrator continues to pursue and Albertine and get bored of her. The minor characters stand out in this volume; Charlus, Morel and the members of the salons. Proust explores homosexuality in some detail; both male and female. Of course the Proust scholars continue to debate the real nature of the narrator's lovers; Albertine, Andree and Gilberte are [...]

  24. "Flower and plant have no conscious will. They are shameless, exposing their genitals. And so in a sense are Proust's men and women . shameless. There is no sense of right and wrong." Samuel Beckett Marcel Proust writes: "People in society are too apt to think of a book as a sort of cube one side of which has been removed so the author can " put in" the people he meets."(MKE 90) He goes on to say that it is " thanks to them when one reads a book or an article, one "gets to know the inside story [...]

  25. This is volume four of Marcel Proust’s, “In Search of Lost Time.” I assume that, if you have made it this far, that you intend to read to the end – however, if you are thinking of starting this and have not read the earlier books, then do please begin at volume one. This is not a literary experience to be rushed and you need to read these volumes in order.The first volume concentrates largely on childhood memories, while volume two and three looks at society and status. Here, though, the [...]

  26. "The women shall have Gomorrah and the men shall have Sodom" opens this book (the quote is by Alfred De Vigny). And Proust certainly delivers, surprisingly (given the publication year of 1921) covering many points along the sexual spectrum. He writes that in the past he has found himself "upidly thinking that people could have but one sort of love." But that's just one of three main plot lines: the second is the Dreyfus affair, and society is far more passionate about Dreyfus than about sexual p [...]

  27. Ta część - co jasno wynika z tytułu - jest o homoseksualizmie. Świat opisywany przez autora ma na punkcie homoseksualizmu prawdziwą obsesję (jesteśmy na przełomie 19-go i 20-go wieku). Homoseksualizm jest obecny. Wszyscy o nim wiedzą, są nim zafascynowani i w pewnym sensie akceptują w sensie towarzyskim w kontaktach z osobami, które są o homoseksualizm "podejrzewane". A równocześnie homoseksualizm wzbudza pogardę i przerażenie. Tak jak w poprzednich częściach narrator surowo [...]

  28. Kayıp Zamanın İzinde serisi benim için düşen bir grafik çizdi. İlk kitap Swann'ların Tarafı'nı çok sevmiştim. Sonraki ciltlerden aldığım keyif giderek azaldı. 4. cilt olan bu kitap hakknda burada yer alan, serinin okunması daha kolay, daha somut parçası olduğu yönündeki yorumlar ise benim düşüncelerimle örtüşmedi. 150. sayfada bırakıyorum. Kalan 373 sayfayı okumak için ne zaman dönerim, hatta döner miyim bilmiyorum. Yüz yıl önceki Fransız sosyetesinin kibir [...]

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